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01:09:33 Keith Nelson: Can I heckle in chat?
01:10:55 Kara Schoonveld – SBT Community Manager: The website: https://www.nsitsp.org
01:13:29 Keith Nelson: Why is Eric Hanson here if we are doing respect?
01:14:51 Kara Schoonveld – SBT Community Manager: Join the list: https://www.nsitsp.org/join/
01:15:19 Jesse Courchaine: Thanks Kara you beat me to it.
01:15:39 Kara Schoonveld – SBT Community Manager: 🙂 Good lookin’ out, Jesse!
01:16:26 Kara Schoonveld – SBT Community Manager: Link to Forums: https://www.nsitsp.org/forums/forum/main-forum/
01:17:53 Dave Sobel: I resemble that remark.
01:18:22 Keith Nelson: I do have time and lobby experience as well as have written most of the curriculum for the Community College and UC system certifications and degree classes (which are being used in some legislative concepts). If I am not too offensive I will throw my hat in
01:19:00 Ben Filippelli: My marketing director is a former content writer for political campaigns and lobbying groups, she might be able to help us in some fashion
01:19:42 Keith Nelson: I also have media experience in crisis – 12/2 terrorist attack in SB – JPL/NASA Mars Lander – spokesman for 2 school shootings
01:19:53 Jeff Grenier: We will help in Ohio Karl
01:20:24 Rayanne Buchianico: I registered the domain: fsitsp.org for Florida
01:20:25 Jon Bova: I’m in New Jersey and happy to volunteer to some degree.
01:21:34 Lynn Thames: In Pennsylvania here. Willing to help.
01:22:36 Jesse Courchaine: Clickable 😉 https://www.ncsl.org/research/ethics/50-state-chart-lobbyist-report-requirements.aspx
01:22:43 Tom Wie: Just information: there is a difference between registering an entity as a domain and registering it as a business entity (corporation, LLC, etc.) Also, consideration may need to be given to trademark and service marks ….as we would not be seeking to infringe.
01:23:03 Kara Schoonveld – SBT Community Manager: Volunteers/leaders – please add your name and location here. https://www.nsitsp.org/forums/discussion/volunteer-to-be-a-leader/
01:23:34 Joshua Chamness: Would it maybe be better organized if you do sub-domains for each state against the nsitsp.org domain?
01:23:42 Kara Schoonveld – SBT Community Manager: If you have particular skillsets (@Keith Nelson, Ben Filippelli, etc), add those details too
01:23:46 Colm O Brogain: https://lobbycanada.gc.ca/en/rules/the-lobbying-act
01:24:40 Eric Hanson: 501c6 is the right code
01:25:00 bill hagara: Hostname (“sub-domain”) added to the national domain name is an interesting idea. WI.NSITSP.ORG
01:25:05 Ray Orsini: A 501 C (6) organization is tax speak for a business association such as a chamber of commerce. Although they’re organized to promote business, they don’t generate a profit and don’t pay shares or dividends. That qualifies them as non-profit organizations, exempt from paying income tax.
01:25:12 Daniel Priest: back in the 90’s a Microsoft employee started a 501c3 to centralize efforts in the industry to standardize directx. Microsoft, intel and other industry heavy weights
01:25:20 Daniel Priest: contributed.
01:25:42 Keith Nelson: We should make the membership fee include a component for PAC or political activity
01:26:14 Traci Leffner: I agree with Keith, we should charge a membership fee
01:26:40 Timothy M Golden Golden: No paid. Not till actually justified
01:26:42 Maria Foss: Do we have a defined mission statement and vision defined
01:26:54 Traci Leffner: We should have that paid at the state meeting level and then a portion gets sent to the overall organization
01:27:18 Maria Foss: To have a fee, there needs to be a defined use of the funds
01:27:21 Timothy M Golden Golden: With clear define of what the fee is and what ir covers and where the $ is going.
01:27:26 Kim Leiby: I agree with Larry.
01:27:26 Alex Farling: There will be differing opinions on legislation, etc… Do we have a non-voting zero dollar fee and a paid fee for members who vote on standards of legislation?
01:27:54 Maria Foss: I like Alex’s point
01:28:05 Timothy M Golden Golden: Ask for $ when it’s actually needed and define what that $ goes to/for
01:28:23 Jim Bachaud: Go look at the AICPA – THEY OWN SOC II. This organization has a great model there to follow.
01:28:30 Timothy M Golden Golden: Otherwise how is it any diff then what the CMMC ab is doing by taking $
01:28:45 Maria Foss: good point Timothy
01:28:59 Ken Shafer: Spot on Timothy!
01:29:28 Timothy M Golden Golden: I’m totally FINE paying $ If we knew what it was earmarked for
01:29:49 Timothy M Golden Golden: Otherwise it’s like BNI?
01:29:50 Ken Shafer: Fees can be raised later once there is a definite plan in place to manage and direct spending of the finances.
01:30:01 Alex Farling: I think it’s too early to be earmarking money at this point. But there will be fees for even little things like creating a 501(c)_
01:30:02 Timothy M Golden Golden: Agreed Ken S
01:30:40 Timothy M Golden Golden: Sure alex then define the plan. What $ is needed and who and where that $ goes
01:30:59 Ken Shafer: Anyone who wants to “donate” any amount of money would certainly be welcome to.
01:31:09 Maria Foss: How much money is needed to start a PAC?
01:32:33 Maria Foss: We need to define the fund earmarks and people will support
01:32:33 Jesse Courchaine: I agree at least two tiers, one cheap but not free and one providing additional commitment
01:32:46 Keith Nelson: We are covered now – the two smartest men in the channel are here Alex Farling and Ray Orsini – if Tony F logs on we are complete.
01:32:49 Maria Foss: we need the vision and mission statement and ethical value set. Agreed!!
01:33:35 Keith Nelson: As far as Ethics – I am the Chair of the Ethics Review Board for my City – I wrote the charter document to the State so I understand Ethics
01:33:38 Timothy M Golden Golden: Right keith n
01:34:40 Keith Nelson: No grey here
01:34:46 Alex Farling: Hair?……………
01:34:55 Ray Orsini: the grey is lost in the white hair lol
01:35:33 Alex Farling: “Never let a good disaster go to waste” (on either side)
01:37:00 Andrew Crawford: do you have a link to that site?
01:37:01 Timothy M Golden Golden: We used them https://termageddon.com/ great stuff
01:37:36 Ray Orsini: <3 Keith
01:38:37 Timothy M Golden Golden: Yep. Insurance is one way
01:38:47 Erik Dreyer-Goldman: We can all cryptomine together to raise money!
01:38:56 Ray Orsini: lol
01:39:04 Timothy M Golden Golden: Haha erik
01:39:06 Larry Mandelberg: Ethics is one of my core skill sets. I worked with the national ethics committee of the Institute of Management Consultant-USA (IMC) to create their ethics re-certification process. One ethics related issue is that there are at least 5 broadly recognized ethical philosophies. We have to gain clarity as to which we want to model. e.g., Kantian, Judaic, etc. There are many.
01:39:13 Timothy M Golden Golden: Insurance has the risk
01:39:26 Alex Farling: @Erik – point that Brave browser at nsitsp.org
01:40:09 Ben Filippelli: we just doing this now, talking to all clients to see if they ‘meet’ their cyberinsurance needs
01:40:16 Larry Mandelberg: We should strongly consider collaborating with HISCOX. They might be an outstanding partner. They are one of the largest, personal professional liability providers and great too work with.
01:41:11 David Szpunar: Austraila and/or the UK has an Essential 8 cyber security requirements that they’re pushing on small businesses and then MSPs can get certified to help businesses comply (for a fee), but it’s a requirement that businesses do something. Not sure that would apply here but it’s an interesting concept.
01:41:59 Timothy M Golden Golden: Thanks ray spot on
01:42:22 Eric Anthony: Agreed Ray
01:42:26 Traci Leffner: Thanks Ray for the insight, spot on
01:43:06 Larry Mandelberg: I probably agree depending on how you define a vendor. This relates to the fee issue. What categories of membership do we NEED?
01:43:40 John Rutkowski – BOLDER Designs: Here’s my build on Base Standard Cyber Security http://BusinessSecurityScore.com
01:44:10 Timothy M Golden Golden: A) so we need $ – agreed B) higher tiered for vendors/etc – great. C) look to insurance as a possiable avaneu
01:44:17 Ray Orsini: I would say Free = joined and part of the discussion Paid MSP = above + voting rights, eligible to sit on any board or committee MSP Vendor = above + voting rights, eligible to sit on any board or committee
01:44:35 george monroy: No Trunk Slammers allowed. Understood.
01:44:47 Colm O Brogain: good point Keith
01:44:53 David Phillips: Keith GREAT POINTS
01:44:53 Timothy M Golden Golden: But let’s take into consideration Pay for Play!
01:45:11 Ben Filippelli: @Keith yes I agree , if we can provide carriers with minimizing their risk, it also gets rid of the ‘non-msp’ msps
01:45:19 Ben Filippelli: because they cant accomplish the tasks required
01:45:22 Timothy M Golden Golden: Hence the need for education from US
01:46:17 Ben Filippelli: but ALSO the insurers already have lobbying and influence, so by teaming and influencing them they can push those things because its in their best interest which is also in OUR best interest
01:46:42 Jeff Adzima: Seems to me the vendors are the ones that really need to be legislated & at the end of the day, they have all the $
01:48:21 Van C Nicholson: Sonny lowe, not a pretty picture
01:48:38 Timothy M Golden Golden: Blanket legislation. Ugg
01:48:52 Rayanne Buchianico: These are the topics that have been mentioned so far: Insurance Liability Ethics/Standards Political / Legislation Education Corporate Structure Membership Committee
01:49:05 Rayanne Buchianico: I recommend that this organizational meeting begins with setting up committees where each person can volunteer in the areas where they have expertise and interest.
01:49:05 Ray Orsini: Thank you for that Rayanne
01:49:38 Denis Wilson: I would like to see a set of prioritized tasks that need volunteers to be outlined. For instance we need to have a board BEFORE we can accept money or fees. If we can do that today, that would be great.
01:50:01 David Phillips: Thank you Rayanne
01:50:09 John Rutkowski – BOLDER Designs: Education is tough, when I started is was MIS. And so many college courses are obsolete the day they are offered.
01:50:11 Maria Foss: Agreed, we are in the weeks.
01:50:29 Alex Farling: vendor management = TPRM (Third Party Risk Management) ::: not just calling Comcast when the internet is down…
01:51:11 Maria Foss: So let’s start with the committees Rayanne Suggested
01:52:00 Ken Shafer: Rayanne and Denis – YES! YES! YES! Focus. Focus. Focus.
01:52:01 Timothy M Golden Golden: So..as we start to get into the weeds
01:52:07 Maria Foss: We need the committees defined and a deliverable to bring to the next meeting
01:52:10 Traci Leffner: I agree
01:52:16 Ben Filippelli: why don’t we just relax, focus and succeed!
01:52:24 Timothy M Golden Golden: Let’s focus on setting up some committee
01:52:40 George Burke: Yes Thank you Rayanne 1st point of order
01:52:50 Jim Bachaud: meeting cadence Establish Voting Protocols Qualifications/Categorizations
01:52:58 Timothy M Golden Golden: I nominate Rob Ford structure
01:53:12 Timothy M Golden Golden: I nominate Rob For structure
01:53:37 Traci Leffner: I will help out with whatever is needed
01:54:19 David Szpunar: A Triage Service Board 😀
01:54:20 James Summerlin: Two things we will need to deal with – I don’t think we’ll ever make them go away – but will deal with. First, IT providers that have no formal training and have no idea what they are doing but believe they are totally badass because they can level their world of Warcraft toon up to level 100 in a weekend. Also, customers that will NEVER be compliant because they just don’t care. I have two clients still running Windows Server 2003 and I have a better chance of shaving off keith nelson’s beard through the monitor than getting them to move off 2003.
01:54:30 Timothy M Golden Golden: A) define some committee. B) define a govern body C) get the ‘right’ ppl in each of them groups
01:55:30 Maria Foss: Where will ideas be placed and where should people interested on being on the board make their interest known?
01:55:32 Traci Leffner: I also think the board should meet weekly so a lot of things can be covered before the next overall meeting so we have a better idea of some of these topics!
01:56:08 Maria Foss: The committee lieads should be decided at the same time as the board if they are not part of the board.
01:56:20 Larry Mandelberg: I thnk weekly is WAY too frequent. We can be urgent and frequent to start or launch, and a regular weekly meeting will eclude the smartest, most competent people because they simply won’t have time.
01:56:52 Timothy M Golden Golden: Each committee can decide cadance
01:56:55 Traci Leffner: https://www.nsitsp.org/forums/discussion/volunteer-to-be-a-leader/
01:57:12 Maria Foss: General monthly meeting and the board and committee lieads could meet once in between general meetings
01:58:26 James Summerlin: I would love to be on the forum.
01:58:35 Ray Orsini: https://www.nsitsp.org/forums/discussion/working-group-ideas/
01:58:36 Keith Nelson: Ray O told me I need to be on Reddit to be someone
01:58:43 Ken Shafer: A Month
01:58:47 Kim Leiby: week
01:58:49 Timothy M Golden Golden: There ya go ray!
01:58:58 Maria Foss: what is the agenda for next week ?
01:58:58 Pieter van der Walt: Week
01:59:08 Rich Szymanski: week for now
01:59:10 Maria Foss: What are the goals to be accomplished
01:59:12 Ray Orsini: @Rayanne I tagged you in the thread. Can you please add your thoughts there as well pls
01:59:32 Andrew Crawford: monthly for general membership, bi-monthly for committees
01:59:41 Keith Nelson: I would say in one week we form committees – State Groups and Six Sigma strategies
02:00:00 Larry Mandelberg: Does weekly give participants time to do what needs to be done before the next meeting.
02:00:03 Maria Foss: We should define what will be delivered rather than just say we will meet.
02:00:37 Ben Filippelli: @Larry I think so because we can set some agenda items even if those take a month there is enough other stuff to start on the next week while members are working on last weeks items
02:01:05 Ben Filippelli: transparency is key
02:01:19 James Summerlin: i’m good with weekly
02:01:28 Timothy M Golden Golden: I can’t see cuz of ya know. Transparency.
02:01:33 John Rutkowski – BOLDER Designs: I have to leave for another call. Good start, get it rolling.
02:01:36 Ben Filippelli: hehe
02:01:44 Ray Orsini: https://www.nsitsp.org/forums/discussion/meeting-notes-7-21-2021/
02:01:50 Ray Orsini: @Rayanee
02:01:56 Denis Wilson: Yes, I agree with Keith.
02:01:56 Timothy M Golden Golden: Yaya another weekly meeting 😉
02:01:57 Jesse Courchaine: You rock, Ray
02:02:04 Ray Orsini: <3
02:02:09 Timothy M Golden Golden: Thanks ray! Keyboard warrior
02:02:30 Timothy M Golden Golden: Hard/PITA to multi task on phone 😉
02:03:09 Timothy M Golden Golden: Also NOTE. All the email notifications from the site are going into spam/junk 😉
02:03:53 Jeff Grenier: Alex – 100%!
02:03:54 Maria Foss: Is there a Forum where we can add out interest in being part of a committee?
02:04:06 Erik Dreyer-Goldman: And There’s lots of small shops
02:04:17 Timothy M Golden Golden: Maria, scroll up
02:04:19 Alex Farling: Small shops grow… they need to mature along the way
02:04:33 Erik Dreyer-Goldman: agreed – the goal is to scale.
02:04:34 Jeff Grenier: Erik – The small shops can still charge and do it the right way and stay in the game.
02:04:35 Ray Orsini: @maria use the leader thread https://www.nsitsp.org/forums/discussion/volunteer-to-be-a-leader/ or the committee thread https://www.nsitsp.org/forums/discussion/working-group-ideas/
02:04:43 Jesse Courchaine: https://www.nsitsp.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Transformation_Industry_to_Profession_Palachuk.pdf
02:04:45 Timothy M Golden Golden: 10q ray
02:04:50 Jeff Grenier: Its the ones that cut corners that are the concern.
02:05:02 Alex Kirilin: Good point Tony, we need our own standards, not coming down from suits
02:05:28 george monroy: What is wrong with wearing a suit? =P
02:05:38 Ben Filippelli: suits for all!
02:06:15 Andrew Crawford: similar to the CPA professional society
02:06:24 Timothy M Golden Golden: @ben have you seen me in a suite! Heck’s no
02:06:24 Jesse Courchaine: Suit Filter for Zoom?
02:06:38 Ray Orsini: i’d pay for that
02:06:48 Alex Farling: Agreed – Ray!
02:06:49 Ben Filippelli: @tim I cant see you because of transparency
02:06:58 Timothy M Golden Golden: Oh right!
02:07:00 Ben Filippelli: 🙂
02:07:06 Ray Orsini: I need to jump but I’m excited for what this turns into and how it can affect our industry. Thanks everyone!
02:07:31 Alex Farling: “passionate”… yes, I know I’m an ass 😉
02:07:38 Jason Slagle: We need vendors to stop enabling the typical 3 tier pricing and tools to solve knowledge.
02:07:40 Larry Mandelberg: Money should NOT be ANY criteria for participation or membership pon the Board.
02:07:41 Alex Kirilin: Kayseya was a “standard” for many
02:07:42 Timothy M Golden Golden: We know @alex
02:07:44 Ben Filippelli: and in reality its not usually MSP its our vendors
02:08:03 Maria Foss: I have to drop, I look forward to the next meeting and information on committee participation. I put my name in the meeting minutes forum, I hope that was the right place
02:08:25 Jeff Adzima: @ Ben right?!?! I’ll say it again, it seems to me that the vendors need to be legislated!!
02:08:28 Alex Farling: Have to drop. Will hit up the forums this afternoon – let’s make sure we post the plan for the next meeting there…
02:08:41 Jon Bova: I agree with having standards. I myself am a small MSP. My only worry is making reaching a proposed standard out of reach for the smaller MSP’s out there.
02:08:43 Maria Foss: Agreed Alex!
02:08:53 Pieter van der Walt: Have to leave for another meeting. Looking forward to hear what the next steps will be.
02:08:55 Jason Slagle: Buy in pricing needs to be structured by something like endpoint count.
02:09:01 Jason Slagle: WISPA is a good model to look at
02:09:05 Ben Filippelli: yeah, this is tantamount to blaming the car dealer for ford cars catching fire
02:09:11 gloria burt: Full inclusion is a great idea.
02:10:12 Timothy M Golden Golden: Thanks for pulling this together
02:10:22 Erik Dreyer-Goldman: Vendors like Microsoft should only sell through partners and not compete with us
02:10:43 Jesse Courchaine: I could see this being a vehicle for pushing back on vendors for taking responsibility
02:11:51 Timothy M Golden Golden: There will alway be “bad” clients. We can choose to work with them or not, this “plan/pac/group” is a starting point to help change the culture. Which will take time!
02:11:56 gloria burt: Thanks Jason. that is a really good point.
02:12:00 Jon Bova: Pizza Tech lol
02:12:07 David Szpunar: I mean HIPAA fixed all the doctors and dentists and required security across the board and we see that now, right? 😀
02:12:46 Jeff Adzima: How about an organization that pushes for legislative action for Vendor accountability
02:12:55 Joshua Chamness: Great point @jslagle!!!
02:13:02 James Summerlin: David, no, we did not see that.
02:13:04 Ben Filippelli: thanks all have to jump for another call
02:13:19 Denis Wilson: Thje same day and time works for me.
02:13:21 Keith Nelson: Thank you all
02:13:24 Timothy M Golden Golden: Please set a regular timer/date
02:13:28 Eric Long: Thanks Karl
02:13:31 Chip Reaves: Thanks Karl and everyone!
02:13:32 Erik Dreyer-Goldman: Thanks Everyone
02:13:32 Colm O Brogain: Thanks Karl
02:13:32 David Szpunar: Thanks Karl and everyone!
02:13:36 George Burke: Thank You Karl and Everyone
02:13:36 Kim Leiby: thank you!
02:13:37 Timothy M Golden Golden: Thanks
02:13:38 Chris Alton: Thank you!
02:13:39 Hagop Belekdanian: thanks
02:13:39 Jon Bova: Thanks Karl and everyone.
02:13:39 Cal Nairne: Thank you
02:13:39 Jesse Courchaine: Good meeting
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